Manufacturer liability for brakeless bmx bikes?
Just hear me out...
Let the kids ride brakeless if they want, sheesh. I see jackasses all the time who cannot ride with brakes. Chris and Robbie don't care and not many do.
BTW, Spur, how you feelin'?
People may try to sue, but people try to sue because coffee is too hot. So are people going to sue manufacturers because their sponsored rider rides a ramp and a kid goes out and gets hurt trying to emulate them? I am not buying that this is a big concern nor will it ever be. If that were the case I can go out and sue Bianchi because I can convert their frames to a fixed gear with no brakes. I can convert any bike to be brakeless. I can sue anyone for anything, whether the suit has any merit is another story. Bike manufacturers have attorneys too, just saying.
I was down at the 9th St. Halloween Jam yesterday and there were tons of little kids there riding very expensive bikes. Many of those bikes had no brakes. These kids could not even bunny hop a curb and they were riding Aaron Ross signature bikes with no brakes. Of course these are amazing bikes which have a design capacity built in to go brakeless which they were utilizing(running brakeless). Cool? Yes. Safe? No. These bikes are advertised to "be compatible with optional brake systems" to paraphrase. To me, that inadvertently advertises brakeless riding.
Perhaps there is a legal stance on this I am not aware of.
If I decide to ride my bike after I alter it and make it unsafe that is on me not the manufacturer. I think every attorney and judge recognizes this. The first thing they are going to ask, did the bike come with brakes and did you take them off? I think the manufactures do enough, and I think brakeless riding is incredible.
Yeah but you are not an 11 year old kid who would sacrifice his health to be just like Aaron Ross and also happens to be a minor with a a rich daddy who has friends.
brakeless has been around for years now... I'm not saying it's the safest thing. Obviously it is not. I agree with much of what you say about the hazards, Benny. There are occasionally collisions in parks between bikes, and between bikes and skateboards. Arguably brakes could help mitigate the severity. I'm sure plenty of little goof balls have been put in harms way in traffic too, due to no brakes.
Not the best trend for safety. But, we can't stop it. Plus it's awesome.
I'm just all pissed about the folks who get destoyed every month and I swear to god this brakeless thing was a pact and has become the trend in BMX. In track bikes, u best know how to ride or get the fuck out of the way.
Stupids kid's parents could also say... I saw that XYZ pro getting 15 foot airs out of a mongo ramp so I boought my kid his "signature" bike at WalMart and when he tried it he broke his neck...
Bottom line, anyone can sue anyone else at anytime for anything. Right or wrong, they might even win. Not saying I agree one way or the other it just is.
It is for this reason that the commercial where the guy drives his Nissan truck in front of a jumbo jet and "catches" the front landing gear in his bed to make for a safe landing has a disclaimer at the bottom... REALLY? I think any idiot who would risk getting past airline security and attempt this because he/she thinks his 1/2-ton truck can take a 747 in the bed deserves whatever he or she gets.
Well he has some kinda following at the park and mouths off to all his friends that I almost hit him and he had no brakes so he just powered through... And then one of the guys I was with said I had to get out of the bowl. Why? Because some a-hole can't afford brakes? Or maybe he is too cool to run them?
How about if you are in a public park, full of various riders, of various skill levels, you have a way to control your bike?
One last thing... there is nothing more ghetto than a kid slamming his foot up against his back tire to stop.
This post has been edited by oldschoolbmx: 31 October 2011 - 05:16 AM
Don't take it personally. Most of the people in skateparks are KIDS. We are old. Kids are thinking and behaving like kids and conversely, we are thinking and behaving like..."old".
Brakeless is hard on shoes though, well, one of them at least.
This post has been edited by oldschoolbmx: 31 October 2011 - 05:33 AM
This wouldn't be any different than forcing pro riders to wear helmets and pads. There just isn't a concern at this point. I think back in the day there was a concern about safety equipment and setting the right example for kids. However the early days of street riding with the backlash against the corporate sponsorship looks have put an end to that.
If you stretched this same thought further showing pictures of a sponsored rider could push a rider to attempt the same trick being done in the photo and hurt themselves. Fortunately this also isn't an issue because if it was our sport would be short lived!