[bmx2112]

Saw this locally and am trying to figure out what it is. Funny thing about this set is that it has an early Action Bikes decal on the seat tube. This is the bike shop that I rode for BITD and the same shop that got me my ride with VDC.

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[bmx2112]

The fork dropouts look like Boss in shape.

[Freshour]

check out how the seat tube and chain stays have the extra bars. very cool.

[mcam]

Isn't the extra bars a Titan thing?

[Freshour]

mcam, on 24 April 2012 - 06:27 PM, said:

Isn't the extra bars a Titan thing?

kinda close. Pic is from 1989

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[bmx2112]

Not a Titan, no serial# or markings on it that I saw. Wondering if it might a Blacklite 24" which would explain the Action Bike decal.

I was thinkin Phase II but it would have a serial#.

[jc82]

I was thinking phase 2 also.

[Freshour]

I thought the Phase 2's only had 1 bar instead of 2

[jc82]

What about ESP?

[I am the owl...]

jc82, on 25 April 2012 - 09:03 AM, said:

What about ESP?

Thats what I was thinking too

[jc82]

I am the owl..., on 25 April 2012 - 10:45 AM, said:

jc82, on 25 April 2012 - 09:03 AM, said:

What about ESP?

Thats what I was thinking too

I know the ones Ive seen have the little wishbone thing that wraps around the seat tube, Forks do kind of look like titan, the way they have that real round bend to them.

[bmx2112]

Here are some more pics, looks like it was repaired on the left rear chain stay. I've seen a Phase with the same BB cups but everything else is diff.

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[Spur]

No way that is a Phase or a Titan. The Blacklite theory is the one I think fits the best as Brett and I discussed over the phone. But who knows, it could be a one off custom or something.

All the cool scores come out of Texas...lol.

[dubplatestyle]

Another guess could be "Ultra-craft Racing Products" out of San Antonio,TX? The forks and drops look a lot like the ones found on ESP though.

[bmx2112]

dubplatestyle, on 25 April 2012 - 04:07 PM, said:

Another guess could be "Ultra-craft Racing Products" out of San Antonio,TX? The forks and drops look a lot like the ones found on ESP though.

Could be, it came out of S.A. , have to do some research on them.

[thumperpilot]

Kendall Burlerson's dad use to make Ti bikes out of SA. They were called Gunn if I remember correctly. Maybe one of those. i know Blacklite was around there too.

[bmx2112]

thumperpilot, on 25 April 2012 - 06:37 PM, said:

Kendall Burlerson's dad use to make Ti bikes out of SA. They were called Gunn if I remember correctly. Maybe one of those. i know Blacklite was around there too.

Ken was the one making the Blacklite's BITD, he would bring them out evry weekend and his son Kendall would race them, saw quite a few of them break so he would go back and add a gusset where needed. The early Blacklite frames were all diff. depending on what week he made them and gusset's varied.

[timbodtc]

Is it maybe a prototype champion? Todd Slavik was telling me about one he had that didnt have the typical crossbrace and with more of a new school geometry. Im only saying this cause this is what i kinda pictured in my head.