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Yeah, "Mediterranean-style" is just a rich person's way of saying "huge, white-trash, tract home with no specific style".
Busters aren't limited to this hobby... Architectural Travesty within...
by S.Brothers
04 May 2012 - 06:25 PM
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04 May 2012 - 10:58 PM
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04 May 2012 - 11:17 PM
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Brian Hays, on 04 May 2012 - 12:04 PM, said:
.....and I say again. The human race is fucking stupid.
TRAGIC!
TRAGIC!
Truer words were never spoken. Mother earth needs to thin the herd...
05 May 2012 - 12:59 AM
Post #24
Wow...that's crazy and sad.
For about twenty years, I owned a stucco/brick church building that was built in 1863. It was on the National Registry and I kept all repairs made in the correct manner for the time of construction. Within two weeks of selling the building it was painted with latex paint (instead of lime whitewash)and the original tin/zinc roof was ripped off and replaced with asphalt shingles. Three sets of original solid wood double doors were removed and replaced with metal doors. Hardwood floors were carpeted and an insurance company moved in. Sucked to see it happen.
I now own a 1918 Craftsman style home in pretty good shape. A relatively recent remodel was mostly unintrusive but I've got to undo a few things.
It's weird that I've never noticed my feelings towards my homes are the same as my bikes. I started collecting bikes when I was living in my church building and I never considered any similarity between the two.
For about twenty years, I owned a stucco/brick church building that was built in 1863. It was on the National Registry and I kept all repairs made in the correct manner for the time of construction. Within two weeks of selling the building it was painted with latex paint (instead of lime whitewash)and the original tin/zinc roof was ripped off and replaced with asphalt shingles. Three sets of original solid wood double doors were removed and replaced with metal doors. Hardwood floors were carpeted and an insurance company moved in. Sucked to see it happen.
I now own a 1918 Craftsman style home in pretty good shape. A relatively recent remodel was mostly unintrusive but I've got to undo a few things.
It's weird that I've never noticed my feelings towards my homes are the same as my bikes. I started collecting bikes when I was living in my church building and I never considered any similarity between the two.
05 May 2012 - 03:43 PM
Post #25
That is a shame, however I can see how it happened.
As a builder I have had the opportunity to work on many homes that are architecturally unique. The decision about how to renovate or what to build is still primarily in the hands of the land owner with certain particulars (bldg height, setbacks, size, etc) determined by local zoning, codes and/or ordinaces.
Here in LA, if a home is designated historic or in a historic zone, unless the owner does not follow rules, the structure especially the exterior will be treated as it such.
If it has no such designation it is very difficult if not impossible to tell a land owner how to treat a building (The Republic of Santa Monica and other Government heavy cities excepted). After all we still live in country that allows land ownership with certain property rights.
Often the only answer is to attempt to purchase said property and then get it designated historic, which although not always easy, in most cases including the Wright house likely would have occurred.
Once a property is designated, permanent changes are made to how a property is described which will stay on title perhaps forever. A good thing if the goal is to save a property.
Unfortunately many homes and buildings are destroyed that warrant saving or conservation but without designation the dollar or the wants of the landower will win out.
I have been on both sides of that fence (destroyed cool structures and restored such) it can and is a controversial issue.
As a builder I have had the opportunity to work on many homes that are architecturally unique. The decision about how to renovate or what to build is still primarily in the hands of the land owner with certain particulars (bldg height, setbacks, size, etc) determined by local zoning, codes and/or ordinaces.
Here in LA, if a home is designated historic or in a historic zone, unless the owner does not follow rules, the structure especially the exterior will be treated as it such.
If it has no such designation it is very difficult if not impossible to tell a land owner how to treat a building (The Republic of Santa Monica and other Government heavy cities excepted). After all we still live in country that allows land ownership with certain property rights.
Often the only answer is to attempt to purchase said property and then get it designated historic, which although not always easy, in most cases including the Wright house likely would have occurred.
Once a property is designated, permanent changes are made to how a property is described which will stay on title perhaps forever. A good thing if the goal is to save a property.
Unfortunately many homes and buildings are destroyed that warrant saving or conservation but without designation the dollar or the wants of the landower will win out.
I have been on both sides of that fence (destroyed cool structures and restored such) it can and is a controversial issue.
05 May 2012 - 04:10 PM
Post #26
Monster-Robot, on 04 May 2012 - 07:59 PM, said:
Wow...that's crazy and sad.
For about twenty years, I owned a stucco/brick church building that was built in 1863. It was on the National Registry and I kept all repairs made in the correct manner for the time of construction. Within two weeks of selling the building it was painted with latex paint (instead of lime whitewash)and the original tin/zinc roof was ripped off and replaced with asphalt shingles. Three sets of original solid wood double doors were removed and replaced with metal doors. Hardwood floors were carpeted and an insurance company moved in. Sucked to see it happen.
I now own a 1918 Craftsman style home in pretty good shape. A relatively recent remodel was mostly unintrusive but I've got to undo a few things.
It's weird that I've never noticed my feelings towards my homes are the same as my bikes. I started collecting bikes when I was living in my church building and I never considered any similarity between the two.
For about twenty years, I owned a stucco/brick church building that was built in 1863. It was on the National Registry and I kept all repairs made in the correct manner for the time of construction. Within two weeks of selling the building it was painted with latex paint (instead of lime whitewash)and the original tin/zinc roof was ripped off and replaced with asphalt shingles. Three sets of original solid wood double doors were removed and replaced with metal doors. Hardwood floors were carpeted and an insurance company moved in. Sucked to see it happen.
I now own a 1918 Craftsman style home in pretty good shape. A relatively recent remodel was mostly unintrusive but I've got to undo a few things.
It's weird that I've never noticed my feelings towards my homes are the same as my bikes. I started collecting bikes when I was living in my church building and I never considered any similarity between the two.
That is a horrible story. I would have been pretty upset if that had happened to my building. Nothing can be done, I guess. Sounds like torture to me. Sorry you had to endure that.
08 May 2012 - 06:46 AM
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09 May 2012 - 01:08 AM
Post #30
Iron Eyes Cody... Louisiana born Espera Oscar de Corti. The Times Picayune outed him for his Sicilian birth heritage in 1996.
The dude walked the walk when it came to Native American living, though, marrying Native American women, adopting native American children, and strongly supporting Native American causes.
If you ever want to watch something both educational and funny, check out the ducumentary Reel Injun. One of the most interesting segments is when they reveal what all those Indian actors are really saying when they talk to the palefaces in the old western movies.
Richard Vogt
bmxmountainbiker
The dude walked the walk when it came to Native American living, though, marrying Native American women, adopting native American children, and strongly supporting Native American causes.
If you ever want to watch something both educational and funny, check out the ducumentary Reel Injun. One of the most interesting segments is when they reveal what all those Indian actors are really saying when they talk to the palefaces in the old western movies.
Richard Vogt
bmxmountainbiker
09 May 2012 - 01:17 AM
Post #31
DMG, on 07 May 2012 - 11:46 PM, said:
There is some real irony using this picture in this thread about the loss of an irreplaceable historical piece.
silverhw, on 03 May 2012 - 09:24 PM, said:
I wanted to point it out but didn't want to derail the thread...
09 May 2012 - 01:35 PM
Post #32
Richard Vogt - bmxmountainbiker, on 08 May 2012 - 08:08 PM, said:
Iron Eyes Cody... Louisiana born Espera Oscar de Corti. The Times Picayune outed him for his Sicilian birth heritage in 1996.
Richard Vogt
bmxmountainbiker
Richard Vogt
bmxmountainbiker
He may have walked the walk well, but he also damaged the credibility of the Native American. Shame on him.
reilley1, on 08 May 2012 - 08:17 PM, said:
DMG, on 07 May 2012 - 11:46 PM, said:
There is some real irony using this picture in this thread about the loss of an irreplaceable historical piece.
I wanted to point it out but didn't want to derail the thread...
Wasn't my intention, just thought it was some intense irony....
11 May 2012 - 03:20 AM
Post #33
that just makes me sick ! such history in that house . my wife and i are looking at a mid century modern house right now . our favorite style of architecture for sure . it makes me sick to think that if we do not end up with it . it could get bulldozed . or turned into some stucco box .
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