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You can be honest without telling the whole story. You can honestly say that you knew the cook was looking to get out. You did. You just leave out any mention of helping find a new gig.
I'd expect it would go something like this.
Owner, "Man, Joe left me on short notice."
You, "You know, I had heard he might be looking for a change, that sucks he left without notice."
At this point, the topic is that he left on no notice, a dick move, and you can now have a friend to friend conversation on that point, where he gets to rant and rave, and you get to be the good listener, and the whole issue of the assist is out the window. You've talked about the job change, and I expect that lifts the burden a bit.
Just my 2 cents.
Real life problem, need real advice
by Kerry
07 June 2012 - 10:42 PM
Post #21
MultiQuote
07 June 2012 - 11:03 PM
Post #22
It always comes back around, I would tell your friend. Better to get it out and deal with the repercussions than to live with wondering if he is going to find out. Because he will eventually. Just tell the truth, the whole scenario. If he doesn't get it or like it, fuck'em.
08 June 2012 - 11:44 AM
Post #23
08 June 2012 - 01:45 PM
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08 June 2012 - 02:00 PM
Post #25
08 June 2012 - 03:03 PM
Post #26
3rdgear, on 08 June 2012 - 08:45 AM, said:
Keep your Fucking mouth shut and tell your Chef friend to keep his shut also.
+1
It's a tough place to be but I think it is relatively simple. The guy needs to treat his people better. How much of a factor was that in your decision to be the middle-man in the poach?
08 June 2012 - 03:43 PM
Post #27
I agree. You're intentions were "good"; his intentions, "unknown". You did nothing wrong, so no need to explain yourself.
08 June 2012 - 07:04 PM
Post #28
I saw a guy who had no benefits, baby on way and miserable. He was shooting the shit with me. Told me he had 1,000 interviews and he was leaving. He already had his resignation letter typed and knew a few of the interviews went great and he'd get hired. So, I said I had a friend who runs a great outfit. Full time, every other weekend off, same pay but 20 less hours a week. Also, out the latest by 7:30 instead of midnight. I also said, your boss is my boy, I wish you guys could've worked it out. He said basically it went too far and he was done.
I only feel bad because he left him no notice. Chef said had he left a notice, owner would've fired him on the spot anyway basically saying "don't want to be here, leave now". He said he's seen that before.
Still should've done it the correct way.
I only feel bad because he left him no notice. Chef said had he left a notice, owner would've fired him on the spot anyway basically saying "don't want to be here, leave now". He said he's seen that before.
Still should've done it the correct way.
09 June 2012 - 03:16 PM
Post #29
You know,that was the chef's decision to leave with no notice.
Not yours.
A dick move, but he KNEW what he was doing and meant to do so.
If it is bothering you, I would tell the owner. If he blows a gasket, tell him that he just lost you as well and why.
That would not be a dick move, and it would leave the outcome up to the owner.
Either way you can move on and not have the burden of some "secret" or whatever for doing the right thing.
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Not yours.
A dick move, but he KNEW what he was doing and meant to do so.
If it is bothering you, I would tell the owner. If he blows a gasket, tell him that he just lost you as well and why.
That would not be a dick move, and it would leave the outcome up to the owner.
Either way you can move on and not have the burden of some "secret" or whatever for doing the right thing.
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09 June 2012 - 05:34 PM
Post #30
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...disrespected by a drunk restaurant owner...
WTF is all this notice shit? When you're being treated like dirt, well... Has no one considered the dick moves of the boss? I guarantee the boss would give no notice whatsoever if it wasn't working out the other way. As someone who has been both the employee and the boss and who has run my own company... respect is a two way street. Get real, guys...
Richard Vogt
bmxmountainbiker
11 June 2012 - 10:50 PM
Post #31
Good point, but in the food biz not showing up or quiting with no notice is giving the boss/biz the finger.
It's kind of a sabotage thing.
No doubt, the boss was being a dick or it would not have gone that way.
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It's kind of a sabotage thing.
No doubt, the boss was being a dick or it would not have gone that way.
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12 June 2012 - 09:55 AM
Post #32
Kerry, did you say that the chef was owed money?!?
HA! There is no notice necessary when you are owed money for work you did. The contract is simple: I work up front, you pay me later.
No pay = no more work. You take your chances when I'll leave.
Richard Vogt
bmxmountainbiker
HA! There is no notice necessary when you are owed money for work you did. The contract is simple: I work up front, you pay me later.
No pay = no more work. You take your chances when I'll leave.
Richard Vogt
bmxmountainbiker
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