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Parts have always been my main focus in this hobby, aside from the obvious JMC affliction - aesthetically from a design sense as well as functionality, and how well they provide they're use.

Plastic parts have always been intriguing to me on both aspects plus - I recently watched a doc. on the smithsonian channel or A&E about the origins and where they are yet to go with plastics in our everyday world and behind the scenes (medical advances, technological etc), on how it's impacted mankind ever since they're invention, and how so much has been made possible because of it.

Can't believe no one touched on this yet (I tried to find like threads to make sure I don't repeat issues) but I couldn't turn up any discussions - Ti and aluminum have plenty but no ones ever touched on a core plastics thread .... Not rubber or vinyl, but straight up plastics (nylon, Teflon, carbon fiber, fiberglass an the like).

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Here's a launching pad with some of the parts I collected over the yrs that grabbed my attention.
A range of items from bb to levers etc - it's missing some bits like headsets and couple others I can think of, I either sold because it didn't fit my needs or I never was lucky enough to acquire.
Breakdown :
1st uni hammerhead w/fiberglass post
Haro lever
Hare gen.1 lever (yellow)
Hare 2 lever
Hare pedals
Addicks seat clamp (albeit the fact they have steel straps incased within)
Titron nylon cup bb
Bmx specialities nylon cup bb
Radkaps valve caps
Addick's chainrings - all 3 gens (Swiss cheese, solid and graphite)
Addick's chainring bolts with plastic inserts
ACS z rims - 81 1st gen
Skyway mini tuff pedals

I know I'm missing an addick's stem and stronglight and hutch bearing-less h/s - so if anyone would care to add and discuss please do so

*doing this off my phone so I can't host here - Jake or any mod that would care to attach these, you have my permission

Not flaming or calling anyone out - just thgt I'd mention for cautionary reasons.

There's a dyd currently listed on ebay as just a frame, where the seller even questions its authenticity - here's the thing and main reason for concern ---- as most know and the screen name may suggest, I am a JMC afficienado and because of my childhood connect to the dyd frameset I've been a gatherer of info throughout the yrs - every time I saw one listed or offered over the yrs on ebay or any site i happened to see, I kept list of all those I know in the collective (Started before the dyd registers on VBMX) and whether or not they had they're og color or not - that said...

i'll try to keep it short - tho the serial is of a frame that has yet to surface - the time frame for that serial number places it in the era that machined bb and chain stay brace was being offered * the frame in question doesn't have either characteristic --- dyd when first released only had the braced hind the bb, somewhere between 84256-84272 they added the machined bb which was only offered for a short time,, that trait was then lost between 84440-84506 and they reverted back to just the brace (which was lost as well 84694)

As far as looks the headtube seems a tad more lax as well - I asked for a TT length but was given a 19" reply, which is a length not even offered on any model.
Personally in my opinion I'd guess its a st'd long with an altered stamped serial (which also looks a bit suspect)

So I'm not saying yeah or nay - what I am saying however is I'd steer clear, rather safe then sorry.

(On a positive side note the seller also has a very nice [what appears to be legit] damn nice survivor set listed as well)

Okay - not retro stuff and not so much the OS knock-offs like
Faun F-1/aero seats
Aeromax UNIs
Crocodile 125 h/s
MX 1000a style brake sets
Kobe (oakley) 2s
Team Cycle MX seats

But more the modern day hardware like,

SE cruiser bars
OM flyers (think the were the 2nd gen style)
LG forks of all shapes and sizes
ESP stems
Aerospeeds and the BB sets
S&M Holmes
DC pinch clamps/MX 1000/890 brakes
Hutch stems/pedals/clamps
Sonlite turbos
Kos bars
Torker cruisers
Kashimax MX
TRP post
Pro Necks
JMC posts
Oakley B-1Bs

Care to play....

Man, was the mid 80s gay ...

Now all I need is a "Frankie says Relax" t-shirt and some frogskins ..... And I ask you please put the gun to my head and pull. LMAO


I better hide this before the wife concludes once and for all I'm a full-on kook !

Okay so anyone else notice the Mongoose mania these days ?... Headsets, bottom brackets, stems all bringing in some astronomical prices, but at what expense. people are bitching - tweaking - rebuilding equipment, allot of times with incorrect bits and Frankensteining a boat load of stuff (ie. wrong wedges, total wrong headsets with a mongoose stamped top nut and calling it a goose h/s etc)
Which brings me to, did anyone see this auction pop off - item # 120908197393 - mongoose reflector set --- WOW unfricking real - but what makes it crazier is that it's not the right variation for a mongoose build - it' is almost, in a sense, but technically though the model numbers are the same, the design changed ever so slIghtly over the yrs of production and use.

Now this info is mainly comprised by my observation over several in the hobby, the multitude of geese that have passed thru my hands over that time (12yrs), along with the tons of dead stock inventories I was lucky enough to sequester in all that time - this by no way is the say all, end all - but seeing the need to get things as straight as possiblle with the flood of frankenrides and manipulated merchandise popping up these days, I've been meaning to get things drawn out and explained through conversation and contribution ----- please if you feel you can add or correct any missing or needed info please by all means ---- I'm no expert (never claimed to be - its a tag the guys gave me, I had nothing to do with it).
I also bring this up now because I am very surprised that with the following Mongoose has (even entire sites solely dedicated to them - that there was no threads of this nature to better preserve the legacy.

So here goes - so not to get to into detail - satelite mfg. co. has been around for pretty much ever and they basically provided every piece of saftey equip for Schwinn for most of they're American history (which also helps in dating items as they were also used on Schwinn model bikes) okay so we know Schwinn helped distribute bmx products early on (mongoose) - at first it was frame and wheels garnished in Schwinn OE equipment (ashtabula winners circle satelite etc).
I have established 4 different gens/variations of the 700/709 model reflectors - the one mentioned above being the 4th (and a version that never made it to use with mongoose products).

1st gen had a white backing and a wing style press nut (they would eventually wear and fall off) these can be found on early 70s schwinn and the earliest geese til about 77
2nd - same wht backing, but modified with a screw and bolt system - removablity and yet more secure - can be found seen on late seventies motomags n catalogs as well as lates to early 80s schwinns (not shown)
3rd - most common same as above but the back of the reflectors are now black - from about 79-82 when they phased out the motomag - the Cali/PCchange also brought about smaller sleeker and more streamline reflectors
4th - the one sold - is similar but the screw an bolt system gave way to a screw that simply screwed into the back of the reflector itself - not a good idea as once it was worn it no longer held ..... Also this version neve made it to use on the motomags. So though you could use it and the look would be right for a purist it's simply not legit.

Pics show the differences - all are model 700, but you can see where the mods were made - i cant show the 2nd gen cause i dont have one to show - 3rd are the more common as by then most shops were hip to leaving the reflectors off, so they survived more times over then the earlier ones. But you can get the idea.




As for the wheel reflectors - they were model 709 and I only have experienced 2 variations - the change was subtle, just and extra little plastic tab on the end that looks like a rain drop (or tear drop in this case when homie realizes he dropped stupid money on the wrong shit) - these ran all thru the 70s into 82 - the tear drip style came out 83 and was still used on certain lower entry level Schwinns on the spokes wheels (with a shorter screw, the long screw was needed anymore since the motomag was no longer being manunfactured.




Last Pic for the motomag type - this is how they came in the boxes - early on just a thick (about 3mil) plastic Baggie stapled shut (they didn't have stamped brackets then so generic mounting straps were used)- the later years had the stamped seatclamp bracket and genuine Ashtabula brackets, these were sealed shut. The one shown is an unopened og set. the stapled ones were also nos and unopened but since they were stapled I had to open them to be sure no parts had slid out over time.


I'll get around to adding the Cali/PC reflector pics in a bit....