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Posted 28 Dec 2012i was just looking at the serial # on my frame(025267). I cant figure out the year. The serial # guide on the museum is no help. Anybody here have an idea. Im curious because i see 2 different headtube decals used. Thanks,Greg
According to an interview that I did with Linn Kastan in 2001, he kept a ledge of all the Redline frames he built until about early 1978.
In March of 1978, he was at Frame # 010500. Being that your frame is #25267, it might be a safe guess that it is a 1979 frame. Also most of the literature supports plated frames in 1979.
I read your interviews with Linn, lots of helpful info, thanks for taking the time!
I have noticed he contradicts himself in a few of the interviews he has done though, just shows he is human. Very stand up guy, even took time out to answer some questions I had for him during my research.
25267 would be early 79, they went to the 340xxx serial numbers in mid 79
Chrome wasn't available to the public till 1980, prior to that white and red were the only colors available to the public, chrome was only on the Team bikes in 78 and 79.
Posted 27 Nov 2012Looks good Shawn. I miss that bike, but I'm glad it went to a good home.
Wow, it was yours? I'd have posted this one in the "Regrets" POST A FEW DAYS BACK... NO WORRIES, I know we all got bikes and wOmen we shoulda kept...It's part of the SHOULDA COULDA WOULDA club....
I miss it, but I don't regret selling it, the money from selling off my collection helped me keep my house after my divorce.
If you ever part with those bars, please let me know...I have those in red and blue and would love to get a gold set...
That would be the only thing to make me regret selling that bike off.
Posted 23 Nov 2012Looks good Shawn. I miss that bike, but I'm glad it went to a good home.
Posted 16 Nov 2012Lots more good info, here is another Redline info thread I started a couple years ago.
The one thing that needs to be added though is that all Japan made frames had the serial number with the date code letters "RI" 1979, "RJ" 1980, "RA" 1981, "RB" 1982, etc. etc. The date code letters were from the Kawamura factory and these were all sold as complete bikes.
The USA made frames after mid 79 had the six digit serial number "340xxx" "345xxx" "375xxx" etc. etc. and had no stamp, and were all sold as frame or frame and fork sets. The only complete USA made bikes were bike shop built, not factory built.
I always thought anything stamped redline was Japan made or later tiawan made, Also anything after 1980 was no longer US made....??
The hot dog stamp was around 81 and the oval stamp started around 82 on Japan made frames, but the bars were stamped as far back as 79ish
They made frame and forks in the US through 83 or 84, but the completes made in Japan were just such a better deal that they just didn't sell near as many USA made frames and they just phased them out.
That's a lot of great info there. Nice work.
We had some MXII frames made down here in Australia too. I'm not sure on those details though.
Aussie made Redline MXII's were made at Gardner Engineering on the Gold Coast. Made between 81 and 83. They have a "Redline" oval stamp and a 4 digit serial #. Pretty much all I can find.
They also had some Aussie made frames without a serial number, and some with serial numbers in the 30000s
Posted 11 Nov 2012I agree 100% and I'm not one to part out nice survivors just for a profit, but it seems nobody is wanting to pay anything for completes right now and those of us that have to sell their bikes don't all have the ability to sit on them, or sell for way less than they are worth. I have a 79 EK Torker survivor that I bought from the original owner, the bike is loaded with good parts but the only serious interest I have in the bike is the parts on it, I hate the idea of parting it, but I can't sit on it any longer so it may end up being parted in the very near future.
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