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  1. 11 points
    After some of my latest research I figured it was time for a good ol' fashioned Show n Tell... As some might know, I'm kind of a nut about vintage 26" cruisers. I love them all. Over the years I've had the pleasure of hunting down and owning several different makes and models, again, loving all of them. Over their seemingly short lifespan from the late 70's to around 1984, a few of the BMX brands that got into the 26" steeds always stood out to me, usually based on their craftsmanship, well thought-out design, geometry and handling. One of those is the Cook Bros Cruiser. Being inherently curious, I've spent years digging for every little bit of trivial information and history regarding the manufacturing of these bikes. I've tracked down ex-employees, welders, team racers, old shop owners, just about anyone that had a personal first-hand story about Cook Bros Racing and their cruisers. Most exciting for me has been chatting with Craig Cook(co-owner/machinist/product developer), Bill McIntyre(team rider/head-welder until 1980), Jim Watson(shop manager until approx 1982) and Jack Witmer(owner 1983-current), all of which have their own memories and stories to tell. All of them have been super cool and unbelievably helpful in my research and they've all given me interesting info which lead me down a new path to more info. One of those breadcrumbs...was the name Evan Teske. I'd been hearing the name for years but never able to track him down. Everyone seemed to have an old or expired phone number for Teske, until recently. After finally making contact and meeting at his home, I learned immediately that Evan Teske is not just a super cool cat, he had some serious history to share. Evan started working at CBR around 1978 where Bill McIntyre taught him to weld. When Bill left Cook Bros and bicycle manufacturing completely at the start of 1980, Evan became their ace welder. He was also a team racer and responsible for product testing and development. He would test the strength of parts at the local skatepark on the one day a week that bicycles were allowed. He'd do fly outs of the bowl on his cruiser to flat landings until his fork legs would bend and the dropouts would break off at the axle slots...then he'd head back to the shop to make himself forks with double thick dropouts welded together(like S&M Bikes would do almost 10 years later) and sleeve the fork legs with smaller OD tubing for double walled strength. He came up with the bends/design of the CBR Cruiser bars, and later the 24" bars. On the side, he welded all the early ELF frames when the brand first started. He welded for CBR until about a week after Gary Cook sold the company around 1983, but Gary would continue to have Evan test his short lived "Cook's" products and CQP cranks for years after. One of the most interesting things I learned was that he still owned his original 26" cruiser. Not only that...the bike itself had quite a story to tell. As I would learn from Teske, the frame is the very first 26" frame they made. In 1979 Bill McIntyre welded this frame up and the guys all took turns riding it around the building. Unhappy with the steering angle, Evan watched as Bill cut the head tube welds, pulled the HT out and re-welded it. According to Teske, he did this at least twice before they all decided the bike rode the way they wanted it. Looking at the bike, you can see the welds in that area are built up and don't match the others. There's still tiny cut scars on the headtube peeking out from under the welds. The fixture was then made off this frame. Bill then made a frame for himself and for Kevin Cobb before they went into full production. This first frame became Evan Teske's. The serial number is "0" and under the BB shell the name "Evan T." is welded. For a short period in 1979 the bike was painted white. Here's Teske racing the bike in 79, coaster brake and pre-cruiser bars. The seat was a custom one-off Evan had made for himself and upholstered in red/white/blue vinyl. Less than a year later, chrome was becoming the hot ticket for the 26"ers so on a day when a batch of freshly made frames were getting picked up for chrome, Evan stripped his bike down, tossed it in with the newly welded frames and it hitched a ride to the chrome shop. Here's an article from Super BMX magazine, August 1980. The bike is now chrome, sporting the new cruiser bars, seat upholstery in need of repairs got changed to black, and always experimenting...running a crazy skinny rear wheel and radial laced front. Racing the 26" at the Las Vegas Nationals, 1980. Skinny rear wheel still in play. Cook Bros Classic, Irvine CA, August 10th 1980. And here's the bike as it sits today. Notice the early Phil spider/Shimano chainring and Pete's sealed BB from his old 20" race bike in the Aug 1980 article has been moved over to the 26" cruiser. The custom bread loaf style seat was changed out years back and he lost track of it. Tires have been swapped for Cheng Shin but his original Carlisle knobbies from 1979 are still in tact and currently set aside. Rat traps are welded at all the joints and the outside teeth are sharpened. Where Bill McIntyre cut and adjusted the steering angle. You can still see areas where he slightly cut into the headtube. The base of this Slant Stem was never plated, just painted black by Teske as it was a prototype for an updated process of the underside being partially welded, as opposed to fully welded underneath, which was prone to cracking. This stem was tested hard and held up, production from then on changed. As CBR's 20" bikes would get updated with chain tensioners around 1981, Evan decided to mod his cruiser with the same treatment. Always preferring to cut his bars down...after he welded these, they were cut at the factory then sent to chrome after. Factory Team gear bags and race jerseys. All the originals from the old magazine shots are here. Including his old Charlie Gnarley t-shirt and Factory ELF jersey with the name "ET ?". Another fun idea Teske had during his time welding at Cook Bros...was to make a step-thru ladies bike for his then fiance! Built on the 26" cruiser jig with a standard toptube flipped upside down. Afterwards a couple other guys at the shop thought it was pretty cool idea and decided to make em for their wives as well. There are three ladies bikes and each one is slightly different. This one is serial number "1". Figured you guys might appreciate this stuff being history buffs. Hope you've enjoyed the read. -Ryan
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    In May, 2019, I picked up this incredibly beautiful original finish 1979 Standard Long. According to the certificate, it was originally sold to a shop in California near the Nevada border. That shop is still in business today. I contacted them to verify that they were the same shop as identified on the JMC Certificate. While the owner couldn't verify specifically that he sold the bike, he did confirm that they have been in business since the 1970's and did sell BMX in the late 70's era. Over the decades, the frame ended up on the east coast and was eventually paired up with the bladed forks for a perfect color and condition match. The blue is vibrant with only minimal wear throughout the frameset. The rear dropouts do show some chipping, but nothing that detracts from the overall condition. It's in incredible condition for a 40+ year old frameset. Some may remember that I built a red JMC back in 2009. I always kind of regretted selling. So, eleven years have passed between the two bikes, and incredibly, they are only 39 frames apart. Red = JMC1191 Blue = JMC1230 The red JMC weighed heaviIy on my mind. I loved that bike and I knew that some components would be similar. I wanted to look for super-clean, used examples of all components to compliment the condition of the frame. I changed my mind many times over the past year regarding the parts I wanted to use, but this is what appeals most to me. I'm very happy with it. BY THE WAY: I would be extremely happy to find two (or even ONE) JMC Racing down tube decals that are not rub-ons. If anyone has a set of white on clear mylar originals (or even Jim's older reissues from 10+ years ago), please contact me. Identical to the fork leg decals. PART LIST: FRAME - JMC1230 Large Airfoil FORK - JMC bladed HEADSET - Tange MX HANDLEBARS - Redline Proline STEM - Redline GRIPS - Oakley 2 CRANKS - Campagnolo BOTTOM BRACKET - Cook Brothers PEDALS - Bob Reedy CHAIN - HKK Smoker SEAT CLAMP - Excaliber SEAT POST - Fluted SEAT - Elina Super-Pro HUBS - Campy (Paramount drilled) AXLES, NUTS,LOCK NUTS - Campy FREEWHEEL - Suntour 17T RIMS - 7B / 7C TIRES - Carlisle Aggressor MX / Cycle Pro Snakebelly BRAKE CALIPER - Shimano Tourney BRAKE PADS - Mathauser BRAKE LEVER - Dia-Compe Gold Dot PADS - Vinyl snap PLATE - Hunt Wilde rectangle (same plate from 2009)
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    Much appreciated! Glad everyone's enjoying it!
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    Just got this blue devil today on a Webco
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    Thanks! The real beauty of this frame, is the seat and chain stays.
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    Now I like most other people love a bike as found. However I had the parts to “update” my 77-78 Webco. Things I changed are the headset,forks,& mags And man I love it. The mags came from a buddy are had been painted yellow then red and one point so I cleaned and sprayed black.
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    So it looks like this is definitely happening. Components pulled so far: Demco Futura X Pedals Nyflor Headset (complete w/ composite bearings) Modified Campy Cranks (Stoker tandem crank modified for a child) 24H Phil Hubs w/ drilled out Fiamme Rims
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    Sweet! Thank you for the contribution Dav, it will be very useful. After taking a quick inventory of the components I have on hand, I might be able to build a very similar mini without my wallet taking too much of a hit.
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    No sound, music or edited. Just cool stuff. 1977 I believe because of the yellow San Diego BMXA plates. Not 78 as it states at the beginning of the video. Rancho, Lakeside and Las Palmas. Heavy On the Parson's Construction team.
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    Moosegoose Test Danny Oakley designed Mongoose bike with "outside the box" approach to big rider geometry. Tested here by a small rider, Tinker Juarez LOL
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    I saw this out diggin and posted it in the swap thread. It’s definitely a tricked out survivor so thought it deserved its own thread. Homemade frame reinforcement mods, Matthews handlebars, KKT pedals, Araya rims, Etc. Check it out.
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    I just read everything again. Just as amazing as the first time. These ‘deep dive’ posts are all-timers. Thanks again for posting.
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    Damn I love the internet...above, you can see I received a PM from the dude that built these wheels, and boy did he drop some knowledge. I received permission to repost what he said here: I was shooting the breeze today about the bad old bike days, and decided if (I left the biz in '96) there was any evidence I'd existed. Enter the magic of Google. Well, you seem to own a unique bit of it. Those wheels were for my personal BMX bike which I built in the mid-80's. I was more of a road racer, but the shop (later 2) my partner and I owned also sponsored a BMX team in the Maryland Suburbs. But I figured I ought to play along so I built a Redline with a bunch of nice stuff on it. Couldn't ride worth a damn, and never caught enough air to give an ant a nosebleed. Still have a nice scar on my left shin from Hutch pedals though. Can't really remember where or when I sold the bike, but it was probably around '89. Most of the wheels I built were for road bikes, and some track stuff. I can certainly tell you I didn't have any in the '84 games, but I did some support for riders at that level. Some of my wheels won medals (the secret is building them for fast riders) at the national level and may have gone to worlds but did not win there. My philosophy was build strong, not tricky. I didn't really care for aero spokes, preferring DT straight gauge. With 14 gauge spokes and the right rim you could put some pretty beefy boys on 28 spoke wheels. Also like 3 cross as the best strength combination. Of course, wheel technology now has changed so much it's a whole other world. But for those who appreciate retro, here's how I did it. Pick good durable rims. The heat treated stuff was just starting to come out at the time, and it made a big difference, the treatment kind of being a hard box over a softer core (think Samurai swords) I was partial to Mavic, but Ambrosio also made good stuff. Stayed away from light rims like Fiamme Yellow Labels, they were too soft. Next hubs. Liked Phils for BMX and Mountain bikes, but did mostly Campy for road. Spokes... As mentioned liked DT stainless 14 gauge straight the best, very strong. Used one of the Specialized spoke length calculators to determine the exact size needed, plus you would use two different sizes on the rear (freewheel, non freewheel). Now the secret weapon. The Phil Wood spoke machine. It could cut and thread spokes to within 0.5 mm. So you only had to carry 1 very long size of spoke. I'd dip the threads in a mix of 50% Phil Oil and 50% Marvels Mystery Oil (just thought it was sort of mystical, other lube would probably have worked too) Using the exact size enabled you to get maxiumum thread engagement in the nipple at the same time you got maxiumum tension and trueness. After stressing the wheel a bit to seat the spokes, and re truing they could go a long way before you needed to touch them again. Had one set that made it 20K miles without retruing. If you really wanted to make them tough, tie and solder the last cross. Glad there's still a pair I made out there. Thought you deserved a bit of the history. I might still have some of those stickers out in the shed. Ed
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    From the February 1981 BMX Plus... here's a 10lb bike with specs
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    The third in the series was this 1976 R&R Supelight model. This particular bike was raced back in the day by Todd Fleming, who was the National Number 2 rider and sponsored by LRV. The 'extra' gusset was welded in by Todd's Dad as these were prone to break with a lot of abuse. The frame has been through a number of 'collectors' hands including Donnie Baird and Jeff Haney before it came to me. I also managed to track down Todd and he confirmed that it is his old race bike from back in the day.
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    This is the first R&R that i built around 6/7 years ago. 1977 frame/forks rolling on Dale Enterprise MX-60s.
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    I bought this R&R frame from Don's Bikes in Rialto, CA. in '77. The only pic that I have of my R&R from I believe '78. Pretty sure sure it was a Centurion. No brake bridge, so I made one with two pieces of aluminum. Looks like in the pic I was running Araya 7B's with loose ball sunshine hubs. Ashtabula fork and stem, Oakley 1 grips, Addicks sprocket, unknown 1 piece crank and rat traps. Probably a Messinger seat with a blue alloy post and Schwinn seat clamp. I vaguely remember them being fluted bars, but can't tell from the pic. Probably Shimano Tourney caliper. Check the R&R frame pad. The candy blue powder coating started peeling off, and it was chrome underneath, so I just peeled it all off. I wish I knew what happened to this frame. I put most of the parts on my Gary Turner not long after this pic.
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    The 'Mini Shootout!!' continues....... '86 JU 'Jeff Utterback' Racing Mini Frame w/ pressed in bottom bracket bearings installed: 2 lbs. 14 oz. (1319 grams) JU Racing Mini Fork: 1 lbs. 1 oz. (507 grams) N.O.S. Bandito Racing Mini Frame: 3 lbs. (1360 grams)
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    Thought I would see how much of difference there is between a painted frame vs chrome plated. N.O.S. Blazer Mini Frame (Painted): 2 lbs. 14.9 oz. (1332 grams) Metallic Brown While I was at it, thought I would weigh a JMC for good measure. N.O.S. '85 JMC Mini Frame (Painted): 2 lbs. 8 oz. (1133 grams)
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    Recently was able to buy this 1983 Star Products frame, fork, and bars that have all been together since new. Original chrome and decals. Decals are kind of rough but still there.
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    Well her she is all done up. Now I used the forks on my other Webco replica and I’m hanging on to the old Bars,stem,seat & post. The seat clamp sold for $511 so that pays for the time and gas lol any way to get back the the bike I like the way it looks all refreshed haha new to bike just about everything other then the cranks,ring and pedals and chain.
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    Oregon in the winter... It seems like it’s cloudy ️if not raining every weekend, so today the sun was shining and I had to get out in it
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    The craftsman who modified these must have had the same concerns about structural integrity, because these are tapped for 1/2" pedals as well. Here's a 'pic' of the whole set-up: I always found the Phil branded adjustable bottom bracket mount very intriguing. Now back to dilemma number 1, what are my chances of finding 1/2" pedal spindles for a set of Demco's? Patrick, thank you for the words of encouragement. Getting under 10lbs. and staying period correct is an arduous task. Billy Week's JMC by Norm's Bikes was close at 10.5 lbs. Did you ever get around to weighing the Hustler?
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    Found this in the Jan 81 BMX Plus mag at oldschoolmags.com. You may have better luck at a road bike forum for that headset.
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    I have been looking to restore my childhood Mongoose and I finally found a picture of it new, Xmas morning, the blurriest shot ever though. I am going to keep digging to see if I can find a better picture. The bike now is rusty with no decals, so if the picture tells you anything about the bike or decals let me know, all I could see is that I have the Red "seat stay wrap"decals. It is pretty rust, is it acceptable to wire brush and rattlecanned, or should it be bead/sand blasted and powdercoated? The Motomags are a bit oxidized and one has a small spoke broken, so I was thinking of patching the spoke and painting the Motomags a matching yellow with black tires. Any tips/ideas are appreciated. I can post some current pix later.
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    This thread and all the CBR stuff is freaking amazing. Thanks so much for taking the time. Dude better change his phone number now.
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    It’s 54 today on this Superbike Sunday. The 5 year old and I went out for a ride. On the way out of the driveway I heard a PFSSSSSSSHH! coming from behind me. As I suspected, my daughter’s tire blew out. One too many skids in the driveway. She’s been riding a 12” princess bike for 2 summers now. I don’t have any 12” tires or tubes on hand so I pulled down the 16” Barbie bike we’ve been waiting for her to grow into. She hopped on and it fit! It’s still a bit big for her, but it’s less squirrely than the 12”. We did a nice 3-4 mile puddle filled cruise. 3 speed 26” kid chaser/escort-mobile.
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    Very well presented information! Early race cruiser and mountain bike history right there. Dig the race shot, I see Mark Pippin (43) and the (199) rider not sure who but he was around my local tracks.
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    It doesn’t get much better than that. Thanks for sharing this.
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    Wow!! Holy shit!! Damn!!! amazing stuff...thanks for posting.
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    The absolute best thing I've read on this site in a month of Sundays. Great bike and phenomenal article!
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    Amazing! I'll be back to re-read later. Thank you for documenting and posting.
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    That is an incredible bike and great info. Been a while since we had someone go deep like this. Thanks, Ryan and Robert.
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    I'm still in shock and super stoked for you. The ladies bike has been a dream for years now, congrats man. This pair is in the right hands. You own number Zero!!!!!!! That's wild....
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    I wish I could get people to respond to want ads... well not anymore as I made do with parts I had since nobody responded to my wants. i got a new project to unveil soon.
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    The blue one the frame and fork is amazing! Thanks guys. I really enjoying building these again! Loving it!
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    Looks like a black motomag with Ashtabula stem and yellow pads lol
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    Great read, and epic history lesson. Those 2 Cook's' are super moto.
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    Thanks for taking the time and doing such great research Ryan. You’re helping to preserve history and giving us a great read. I love reading your stuff.
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    That's pretty cool history right there, thanks for sharing.
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    Well the title worked. It got me to look.
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    The only poeple that will tell you there was a limited # made are those that want you to believe it is rare. I live in a very small city and our dealer couldn't get rid of them. They had no less than 5 of them and when they finally blew them out for ($179?) I picked up a couple just to use some of the parts on a rider I was building. I still have one of the frames that was never ridden (they all came partially assembled, so the washer marks are a given)and I just have it hanging on the wall with some other mcgrath stuff. I laugh when people throw on on ebay with a price of over $1000.....I'm sure someone along the way will believe that it is worth it and pay. For fun, I made a Suzuki version of the bike (what it was supposed to be). When GT and MC were hammering out details for the Showtime bike, Jeremy made a sudden change to Yamaha causing obvious problems with the original Suzuki yellow color scheme. Quite a few of the Suzuki models went out (my brother had 2 of them)before the later blue Yamaha models. There is even a few kids in my neighborhood that still rock theirs. Along the way, I have misplaced some of the parts to mine so I just use it as art on the wall.