Just bought an inverted cruiser stem from joel & one standerd $69 each. Compared to my original patten pending & dimentions are spot on. Very high quality 4 under $70. I don't plan on winning any carpet queen show trophies with it, but now my bike is rideable, looks awesome at ten feet, & you know it does'nt fool anybody. I tried to buy one of the tuf-neck ones (offered 450) & was denied. He maid those 4 himself 4 his own builds. He says he was never going to pay 500 for an invert. U know its like putt'n a small block chevy into 32 ford. Also, I usually find in life that the people who piss and moan the loudest about other peoples acomplishments are the same ones guilty 4 the same damn thing. your loud ass voice does not speak as loud as ur trick star, or ur fake stems 4 that matter, yeah!! I said it!!!