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i just got a bike with the serial number TK 463 L C      

 

can anyone help tell me what this means???

 

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March 1979 I believe.

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https://fortyfour16.wordpress.com/2010/04/22/torker-frame-serial-number-guide/

 

Michael updated the info from the first post in this thread:

 

Prior to May 1978, Torker seems to have used the “standard” BMX SN system that many companies used. I have only two SNs from that time, but I am pretty confident of how they work.  The two I have are  T877188 and T977270. My best guess: “T” for Torker, month (August and September), year (1977), frame production number (188 and 270).

 

Starting in May 1978, Torker went with two letters (T? or ?T)—a “T” for Torker and a second letter corresponding to the month of production. The first letter in the series is “A” for May. Next is the production number of the model. The final letter represents the frame model. For example: TJ 3344 L = February 1979; the 3,344th frame in the model series; “L” for Low Profile (L.P.) or, The 3344th L.P. was made in February 1979. One caveat to this is if Torker used a letter to identify the model through 1978. I only have two SNs from 1978 and neither has a final letter.

 

The first series starts with “TA” in May 1978 and ends 26 months later in June 1980. In July 1980, a new series starts with “AT” and runs 26 months to August 1982. The model production numbers continue sequentially through both systems.

 

In September 1982, Torker switched to a new system starting with three letters TZZ to TAA. Around this time, Torker also changed its product line, dropping or changing all previous models and/or names. For example, the L.P. was renamed the 280 and all mild steel models were eliminated. The SN system, however, remained the same, with the exception of the three first letters and that it started at the end of the alphabet rather than the beginning. For example: TRR 8122 = May 1983; the 8,122 frame in the model series; no letter for 280. Frame production numbers started over from “1” with “TZZ.”

Most SNs end with a letter. The letter identifies the model. Those SNs that lack a final letter are either L.P.s or 280s, depending on when the frame was made. Torker dropped the “L” when it discontinued the Big Bike (B). At the same time, Mild steel L.P.s went from LM to M.

 

Previously, I wrote that a frame with the SN on the BB was made prior to 1980. As I collected more SNs, I began to question this theory. I now believe this is incorrect. Indeed, Torker used the SN on the BB early on, but it used it until mid-1980. From about that time, depending on the model (but there is no obvious solid date) the SN was put on the right, rear dropout. Using the SN location to date your frame should be avoided. The best way to ID your frame is to use the SN code that follows.

 

My research is only on the frames made by Torker in its own factory in Fullerton, CA, USA. I do not have any research on frames made in Asia after the Oct. 1984 bankruptcy.

I must thank the guys who put together the Haro frame registry. Their work made this job much easier.

 

Here are the date codes followed by the model ID codes:

TA=May 1978

TB=June 1978

TC=July 1978

TD=Aug. 1978

TE=Sept. 1978

TF=Oct. 1978

TG=Nov. 1978

TH=Dec. 1978

TI=Jan. 1979

TJ=Feb. 1979

TK=March 1979

TL=April 1979

TM=May 1979

TN=June 1979

TO=July 1979

TP=Aug. 1979

TQ=Sept. 1979

TR=Oct. 1979

TS=Nov. 1979

TT=Dec. 1979

TU=Jan. 1980

TV=Feb. 1980

TW=March 1980

TX=April 1980

TY=May 1980

TZ=June 1980

AT=July 1980

BT=Aug. 1980

CT=Sept. 1980

DT=Oct. 1980

ET=Nov. 1980

FT=Dec. 1980

GT=Jan. 1981

HT=Feb. 1981

IT=March 1981

JT=April 1981

KT=May 1981

LT=June 1981

MT=July 1981

NT=Aug. 1981

OT=Sept. 1981

PT=Oct. 1981

QT=Nov. 1981

RT=Dec. 1981

ST=Jan. 1982

TT=Feb. 1982

UT=March 1982

VT=April 1982

WT=May 1982

XT=June 1982

YT=July 1982

ZT=Aug. 1982

TZZ=Sept. 1982

TYY=Oct. 1982

TXX=Nov. 1982

TWW=Dec.1982

TVV=Jan. 1983

TUU=Feb. 1983

TTT=March 1983

TSS=April 1983

TRR=May 1983

TQQ=June 1983

TPP=July 1983

TOO=Aug. 1983

TNN=Sept. 1983

TMM=Oct. 1983

TLL=Nov. 1983

TKK=Dec. 1983

TJJ=Jan. 1984

TII=Feb. 1984

THH-March 1984

TGG=April 1984

TFF=May 1984

TEE=June 1984

TDD=July 1984

TCC=Aug. 1984

TBB=Sept. 1984

TAA=Oct. 1984

Model Codes:

B = Big Bike (from May 1978; had rear-facing dropouts; previously the MX)

BM = Mild Steel Big Bike

E = Eddy King Replica (European BB)

L = L.P. (Low Profile)

No Letter = Standard L.P.

LM = Mild Steel L.P. (1978-1979)

M = Mild Steel L.P., 1980+

0 (or O) = Long L.P. (has longer top tube (19”)

0M (or OM) = Long Mild Steel L.P. (has longer top tube (19”)

No Letter = Standard 280 (from Sept. 1982)

0 (or O) = 280 Long, (has longer top tube (19”) (from Sept. 1982)

0X (or OX) = 280 Long (has oval-hole gusset and 19” top tube) (from some time in 1983)

P = Pro XL, late-1983, (has longer top tube (19.5”), Haro/Redline-style gusset, butted tubing and 1 1/8” down tube)

SC = 24” cruiser (Small/Short Cruiser)

C = 26” cruiser (Cruiser)

R = Mini

RP = 1984 Mini Pro (Only known frame belonged to Factory Torker rider Craig Bark)

F = Haro fremaes (F = Freestyle?)

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Does anyone know what year /month torker forks were released?

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This pic of KenC's shows the serial code is at least 2 months earlier than stated. 

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Well dam I haven't seen this post until today. I have 5 I will take pics and add numbers to. Other ther Kens old red EK witch I have owned for the past few years.

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Posted on Torker facebook page by Steve Audish

 

According to the above invoices the Torker serial codes may need some adjusting.  Serial IT bought in mid Dec 1980. Serial TO bought in late May 1979

 

Also kdubbmx on radbmx wrote:

 

Mine is TLL 018 P  but i got it before Nov 83 as i'd quit racing by then, maybe as mine was a factory team bike we got them before everyone else?

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Well here is my 79 eK I got from Ken, 1982 24” and 1982 26”

 

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That red EK is outrageous.

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Haha thanks she took 1st in the 70’s class at the Midwest show today lol

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Hi All, does anyone know what year and model a serial number starting W V comes from? Its on the underside of the frame where the crank pushes through rather than on the dropouts? Much appreciated if anyone can help?

 

This is the same style of Torker:

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OLD-SCHOOL-MID-SCHOOL-BMX-TORKER-280X-FRAME-FORKS-BARS-CHROME-VINTAGE-RARE-HTF/122616772985?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D46150%26meid%3D4ee899b20dbc406699a5cb0e8b5ae067%26pid%3D100623%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D122060926431&_trksid=p2047675.c100623.m-1

 

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Hi All, does anyone know what year and model a serial number starting W V comes from? Its on the underside of the frame where the crank pushes through rather than on the dropouts? Much appreciated if anyone can help?

 

This is the same style of Torker:

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OLD-SCHOOL-MID-SCHOOL-BMX-TORKER-280X-FRAME-FORKS-BARS-CHROME-VINTAGE-RARE-HTF/122616772985?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D46150%26meid%3D4ee899b20dbc406699a5cb0e8b5ae067%26pid%3D100623%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D122060926431&_trksid=p2047675.c100623.m-1

 

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pretty sure this is a later 90's Pro ST.    i don't know any info about the serial number. 

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I just picked up another EK the guy I got it from says it’s a EK mini I say nay to that just a plain EK with skinny rims. However the forks look smaller then the forks on the 79 EK. Did they make smaller forks ? And the decals and paint look OG but never seen the decals before. 2648BD9C-97CA-4031-981A-E1085A52D8C2.jpeg6462B97D-5881-4F0B-9B19-9EF0F3B5DCCC.jpegCEF3BD59-5406-4AEF-A33F-BCBB95CD7F80.jpeg

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Can anybody help me out? 
my torker serial no. Is TQ0 83 42

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