mrraceinc Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 I have had this for A LOT of years and have never known what year it is.I bought this and a California red one at the same time. This has the original box as well. Serial # starts with 51 and has no letters in front of it. I have done every serial number search I could think of on here with no luck. Any help would be appreciated. I was going through some of my stuff and just started thinking about this frameset so I pulled it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr coasterbrake Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 that color with high fork pegs = 1986. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrraceinc Posted July 27, 2009 Author Share Posted July 27, 2009 that color with high fork pegs = 1986. Do you have any sort of timeline on what colors were what year? I would really like to know. I really haven't seen too many black ones. I know the other colors were a lot cooler. Maybe that is why this one stayed unbuilt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr coasterbrake Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 1985= white, yellow, turquoise and "radberry". the first 250 were full-paint, the rest were the familiar 'half paint half chromed'. 1986= white, turq, radberry, black, full chrome and red. 1987= same as 86 1988/89*=full chrome and red, blue, black, kiwi, mango (all with grey back ends). mighta still been a white one, too. i forget. *89s were technically just left over 88s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrraceinc Posted July 27, 2009 Author Share Posted July 27, 2009 Thanks for the info! That is good to know! I really liked my red one! I should have kept it! This black one was just the cleaner of the two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr coasterbrake Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 personally, i like the black better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrraceinc Posted July 27, 2009 Author Share Posted July 27, 2009 What year are the bars? They have threaded inserts in them. My other pair has the tabs but no inserts. I almost didn't notice it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subwax Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 The RL22 an early 87. Redline only offered the pink decals in 87. The bars are race bars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrraceinc Posted July 27, 2009 Author Share Posted July 27, 2009 The RL22 an early 87. Redline only offered the pink decals in 87. The bars are race bars. I knew the bars were race bars. I was just trying to understand the differences/years between the two sets I have. They are identical with the exception of one set having threaded inserts in the tabs and one not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinonesm Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 The RL22 an early 87. Redline only offered the pink decals in 87. The bars are race bars. I would agree with this and I figured they just used a left over 86 fork on that one, since the 87's came with the lowest fork pegs. the 88's moved the fork pegs up about an inch and a half in order to go with the wider diameter peg. Very nice bike either way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelvinsArmy Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 . I really haven't seen too many black ones. I know the other colors were a lot cooler. Maybe that is why this one stayed unbuilt. Couldn't disagree more. It's very hard to make anything look bad in black. I'd take black over pink, red, radberry or whatever nutty colors were out at the time, any day. Nice frame set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokin_Endo Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 The RL22 an early 87. Redline only offered the pink decals in 87. The bars are race bars. First of all Beautiful set up I love the black and think it's very unique because you don't see them too often. RL Paulie has one that he's had since new and can verify that it is in fact an 86 not an 87. As Chris (Mr. Coasterbrake) stated above the 86's came with high fork pegs and a black bottom bracket. there are other minor differences in the frame (weep holes and a few other small things) setting them apart from the 87 year model. I have one but I stripped off the black on the bottom bracket because I like the way the paint scheme looks with the fade to chrome on the decals. It's an 86 100% guaranteed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zepp85 Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 yes RL-22 II 87 and forklifter racing bars as chris stated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinonesm Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 The RL22 an early 87. Redline only offered the pink decals in 87. The bars are race bars. First of all Beautiful set up I love the black and think it's very unique because you don't see them too often. RL Paulie has one that he's had since new and can verify that it is in fact an 86 not an 87. As Chris (Mr. Coasterbrake) stated above the 86's came with high fork pegs and a black bottom bracket. there are other minor differences in the frame (weep holes and a few other small things) setting them apart from the 87 year model. I have one but I stripped off the black on the bottom bracket because I like the way the paint scheme looks with the fade to chrome on the decals. It's an 86 100% guaranteed Brian - do you know if they changed the forks mid year or did all of the 87's come with the lowest fork pegs (using the OG skinny pegs that were used on 85/86)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subwax Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 The RL22 an early 87. Redline only offered the pink decals in 87. The bars are race bars. First of all Beautiful set up I love the black and think it's very unique because you don't see them too often. RL Paulie has one that he's had since new and can verify that it is in fact an 86 not an 87. As Chris (Mr. Coasterbrake) stated above the 86's came with high fork pegs and a black bottom bracket. there are other minor differences in the frame (weep holes and a few other small things) setting them apart from the 87 year model. I have one but I stripped off the black on the bottom bracket because I like the way the paint scheme looks with the fade to chrome on the decals. It's an 86 100% guaranteed I wont say its 100% guaranteed an 86 - not sure why you would make such a definitive remark on a subject that is so gray. I would say that, just like the way the J shaped coaster tab is a late 85 / early 86 feature, the black paint scheme could be a late 86 / early 87 feature. I have got 3 or 4 of the black paint frames, in original condition, and they are definitely 87's. Its the same with the forks - some of the 87 frames have high fork pegs, and some have low. They all take the 1st gen pegs though, not the later, chunkier 88 pegs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokin_Endo Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 your wrong and if I had more time I would elaborate. It has to do with the serial # and other variations on the frame that make it an 86 100% and some of you guys were arguing with me two years ago that it was possible that the style serial # that comes on these black bottom bracket black bikes were late 85 and now to suit your own needs you want to call it a late 86 even possibly an 87 it's not a GHP you know and I have researched this again I don't have time for this at present but will in the future and will discuss this issue in depth when I have the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokin_Endo Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 Brian - do you know if they changed the forks mid year or did all of the 87's come with the lowest fork pegs (using the OG skinny pegs that were used on 85/86)? Correct Marcus all 87's had low fork peg mounts and 85-87 screw in pegs. It wasn't until 88 that they made the pegs slightly larger with a different size thread and the different knurling patterns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokin_Endo Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 I can settle this with one question for the owner If you look at your brake bridge in an upward manor (like from the rear drop outs up toward the seat) are there two weep holes in it (the brake bridge) ? If not it's an 86 if the holes are present then I apologize to Neil and others who believe it's an 87 and concur but if the only hole in your brake bridge is for the caliber's mounting post then it's 100% a 1986 Redline RL20II there are other small details but I don't have much time on here right now Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subwax Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 What has GHP got to do with this? I think I am right and I have 4 frames to prove my point - what have you got? You have obviously got some kind of personal thing about this, which i dont have. Please dont resort to putting people down because their synopsis might not go along with yours. If your case is so good, please post it - I am all for learning, if you have anything to teach. If not, then lets not waste space with silly little putdowns. I have been dealing with all manner of RL20II's, and have over 30 in my collection - I think, although by no means a guru, I would like to think my opinion counts a little bit more than "its not a GHP". If you have nothing nice to say, then lets not bother talking. your wrong and if I had more time I would elaborate. It has to do with the serial # and other variations on the frame that make it an 86 100% and some of you guys were arguing with me two years ago that it was possible that the style serial # that comes on these black bottom bracket black bikes were late 85 and now to suit your own needs you want to call it a late 86 even possibly an 87 it's not a GHP you know and I have researched this again I don't have time for this at present but will in the future and will discuss this issue in depth when I have the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokin_Endo Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 who put you down ? we'll see who knows what when the guy who owns the bike responds about the weep holes...also betting that it has a completely numerical serial # on the bottom bracket as opposed an 87 serial which has a R prefix. you want to argue and act like the guy with the most toys knows best but I don't care how many RL20II's you have. This means nothing about what you know. Where are all of your technical comparisons and information supporting your theory ? You just want to act like you know some shit but you don't. And what I have is none of your concern Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerry Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 Neil, 30 RL 20 II's and you can't tell that's an 86? This is like that time you just stuck up for Willinois because he's your mate. When in reality, he was dead wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subwax Posted August 15, 2009 Share Posted August 15, 2009 Calm your passion, Kerry. I'm not saying its an 86 at all. I'm just saying that saying that it is 100% an 86 is not something I think holds much water - there is so much difference, even in the same year, that saying it DEFININITELY is something is perhaps a statement too far. I think that the people that can definitely state what is it or isnt are the people that actually made them - I am obviously not one of those people, so what I say isnt fact by any means - just my opinion. Neither is yours either. I clearly stated that I am not a guru, or expert. I said I have got a few bikes so am able to make comparisons. This is a public forum, and everyone is able to make comments, even those that disagree with you. Coming to terms with someone who disagrees with you is all part of the learning curve of life, I guess. Whats your hang-up about this? Seems you have argued with someone in the past, lost the arguement, and now are hell bent on getting revenge, even with someone you didnt previously argue with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subwax Posted August 15, 2009 Share Posted August 15, 2009 Neil, 30 RL 20 II's and you can't tell that's an 86? This is like that time you just stuck up for Willinois because he's your mate. When in reality, he was dead wrong. Come on then Kerry - tell me how this is like that time? Who am I supporting here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerry Posted August 15, 2009 Share Posted August 15, 2009 I just felt like being a dick. ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subwax Posted August 15, 2009 Share Posted August 15, 2009 lol - you little tinker, you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
