quinonesm Posted August 15, 2009 Share Posted August 15, 2009 Brian - do you know if they changed the forks mid year or did all of the 87's come with the lowest fork pegs (using the OG skinny pegs that were used on 85/86)? Correct Marcus all 87's had low fork peg mounts and 85-87 screw in pegs. It wasn't until 88 that they made the pegs slightly larger with a different size thread and the different knurling patterns Thanks Brian. I learned something here today. My white RL is an 87 frame and fork when I thought it was a mismatch f/f (86 frame w/87 fork). This white one has the weep holes in the brake bridge. The chrome one I got from Paul which was previously yours is an 86 frame with an 88 fork (larger diameter pegs with the different knurling pattern. So one complete and one mismatch for me. You'll see them both at the slam tomorrow. Marcus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrraceinc Posted September 11, 2009 Author Share Posted September 11, 2009 who put you down ? we'll see who knows what when the guy who owns the bike responds about the weep holes...also betting that it has a completely numerical serial # on the bottom bracket as opposed an 87 serial which has a R prefix. you want to argue and act like the guy with the most toys knows best but I don't care how many RL20II's you have. This means nothing about what you know. Where are all of your technical comparisons and information supporting your theory ? You just want to act like you know some shit but you don't. And what I have is none of your concern Sorry for the delay in responding to this. I was getting notifications when there was a response and then for whatever reason they stopped coming. You were right on the money! It doesn't have weep holes and has a completely numerical serial number with no letters. Thanks for the info! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RL Paulie Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 This is the first time that I've seen this thread. I figured that I would add my 2 cents. First off, Brian is right in that I have owned my black RL-20II since I bought it new from a local shop in Rochester NY. This was in October 87, however I do remember that frameset hanging on wall for what seemed like forever. They were very eager to finally sell it. They honored my request to swap out the fork with an RL-20 that had the lower pegs, which was also hanging on the wall. Mine has no serial number whatsoever. I had always assumed that the frame was an 86 because it originally came with the high peg fork... but I can't say for sure that it's an 86. I suppose it could be a very early 87. I had also assumed that the 86's had painted bottom brackets and the 87s were stripped to chrome to match the decal pattern. I do find it odd that all (or at least most) of the black RL-20II's that I've seen have the high pegs. This would suggest that they were an 86 model. No proof though. Honestly I don't think Redline had a real set date for when they switched over to new model years. Anlun seemed to be just pumping out framesets with no regard to model year... until 88 anyway. I've seen lots of 87 serial number Haros that were built as 88 model bikes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spicoli Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 I remember Paulys bike hanging up at the bike shop...in 89 lol j/k bro Ya Paulys was def hanging in the shop in 86...I wanted that frame bad !!! Sweet kit btw...86-87, dont matter to me !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RL Paulie Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Seriously Joe? You recall seeing it in 86? It was that place in Irondequoit. Bicycle Center or something? I think I still have the receipt for it somewhere. $225 for the frame/fork. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrraceinc Posted September 15, 2009 Author Share Posted September 15, 2009 Thanks for all of the input! I really like this kit too! It was actually a great deal when I bought it about 4-5 years back as well. I didn't pay much more than RL Paulie did! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crowe-t Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 I just came across this thread. I also have the same NOS black RL20II frame set with the high fork peg mounts. It currently doesn't have the decals applied but I have a set of NOS decals for it. Mine doesn't have the weep holes in the brake bridge and the cable guide on the top tube up by the head tube is solid like an 86. Also the serial number only consists of numbers and no letter 'R'. I feel mine is an 86 or at least is an 86 frame with the 87 black color. I've seen 86 Haro Sports/Masters that were essentially 85 frames with the higher fork peg position and the higher bars that were sold as 86 models with the half paint/half chrome scheme. This is the only picture I currently have but can take some pictures of the brake bridge and the cable guide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokin_Endo Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 Nice ! Mine was exactly the same as yours when I bought...black no stickers solid cable guides no weep holes and numerical serial I still say 86 100% I stripped my Bottom bracket but they were the same when shipped from redline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crowe-t Posted September 20, 2009 Share Posted September 20, 2009 (edited) Nice ! Mine was exactly the same as yours when I bought...black no stickers solid cable guides no weep holes and numerical serial I still say 86 100% I stripped my Bottom bracket but they were the same when shipped from redline I think I'll strip the bottom bracket when I put the stickers on. I'm building it with a 4 bolt silver Forklifter stem and chrome bars. Basically as an 86 with chrome Super Pros. Edited September 20, 2009 by crowe-t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subwax Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 I wasnt aware of black being an option in 86. In 87, they have chrome and black available, but not black on its own. Maybe yours is a test for the 87 black / chrome? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crowe-t Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 It may very well be a test for the 87 black. Here's an article from the December 87 issue of American freestyler with a black RL20II with the high fork pegs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RL Craig Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 This thread is certainly becoming educational. I have a RL20 II Frame that I purchased in the Summer of `87 serial # 513234. it has both the top tube cable bosses Head tube and mid bridge) and no weep holes in the Brake Bridge. I had always assumed it was an `86 Frame because like RL Paulie's it sat on the wall at the Bike shop for months. This thread has pretty much confirmed it to be an 1986 heres one of the most recent shots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RL Paulie Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 This thread is certainly becoming educational.I have a RL20 II Frame that I purchased in the Summer of `87 serial # 513234. it has both the top tube cable bosses Head tube and mid bridge) and no weep holes in the Brake Bridge. I had always assumed it was an `86 Frame because like RL Paulie's it sat on the wall at the Bike shop for months. This thread has pretty much confirmed it to be an 1986 heres one of the most recent shots If the fork is original then it's an 87. It appears that some of the early 87 bikes came with the high fork pegs, but I find it highly unlikely that an 86 came with the low fork pegs like yours has... Beautiful bike btw. Welcome to the site! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RL Craig Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 This thread is certainly becoming educational.I have a RL20 II Frame that I purchased in the Summer of `87 serial # 513234. it has both the top tube cable bosses Head tube and mid bridge) and no weep holes in the Brake Bridge. I had always assumed it was an `86 Frame because like RL Paulie's it sat on the wall at the Bike shop for months. This thread has pretty much confirmed it to be an 1986 heres one of the most recent shots If the fork is original then it's an 87. It appears that some of the early 87 bikes came with the high fork pegs, but I find it highly unlikely that an 86 came with the low fork pegs like yours has... Beautiful bike btw. Welcome to the site! Actually the Forks are from my old Red `87 RL20 that I had purchased some months earlier. The Chrome RL20 II Frame had been on the wall at Albe's for some time before this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crowe-t Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 This thread is certainly becoming educational.I have a RL20 II Frame that I purchased in the Summer of `87 serial # 513234. it has both the top tube cable bosses Head tube and mid bridge) and no weep holes in the Brake Bridge. I had always assumed it was an `86 Frame because like RL Paulie's it sat on the wall at the Bike shop for months. This thread has pretty much confirmed it to be an 1986 heres one of the most recent shots RL Craig, Nice Redline!!! Is it originally all chrome or did you strip the paint off? If so what color was it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RL Craig Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 RL Craig, Nice Redline!!! Is it originally all chrome or did you strip the paint off? If so what color was it? All Chrome my friend I swapped out a California Red RL20 in favor of this Chrome RL20 II because I wanted something more durable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RL Paulie Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 Now it just needs some decals! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RL Craig Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 Now it just needs some decals! I have a Blue Square kit on the way along with some new Flight crank decals aswell. I will update pics when it's all done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stussy Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 RL Craig Are you a ramp rider from Michigan? Did you do demos in the Toronto Canada area in the late 80's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RL Craig Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 RL Craig Are you a ramp rider from Michigan? Did you do demos in the Toronto Canada area in the late 80's? Yes I'm from Michigan (just N. of Detroit to be exact) No never been to Toronto for Demo's. As far as ramps I used to ride ramps 20 yrs ago., Right now I'm banging around at a local Community Skatepark that caters to Bikes and boards. Still trying to get the nerve up to let it hang out like I used to. And yes I'm riding the RL20 II. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spicoli Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 Seriously Joe? You recall seeing it in 86? It was that place in Irondequoit. Bicycle Center or something? I think I still have the receipt for it somewhere. $225 for the frame/fork. Paul, I saw Team Haro there in summer of 87...your frame was hanging up then, and had been there for a while "I used to spend a lot of time there"...I got my complete RL20 in late 86 from another shop, but I remember wanting your 20 II frame when I bought my shop built RL20, but couldnt convince my mom to drop all the coin on just a frame, and then spending 100s more on parts to build it...I'm def gonna say that your frame had to have been manufactured before 87... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RL Craig Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 (edited) Ok guys heres the bike now with new Rubber and Correct Decals Complete with Oldschool handmade Cherry Picker foot guard Edited October 4, 2009 by RL Craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rideabike Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Hi guys I have a black rl 20II that was black on the bottom bracket with high fork pegs. I stripped the paint off becouse it was scratched up Now it has decals like yours RL Craig,but I painted the BB black and it looks sweet . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrraceinc Posted February 2, 2016 Author Share Posted February 2, 2016 I haven't visited this topic in a long time as I have just been so busy. It looks like there have been quite a few posts since the last time I posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RL Paulie Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 I haven't visited this topic in a long time as I have just been so busy. It looks like there have been quite a few posts since the last time I posted. Do you still have the frame? I still have mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
