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That guy hasn't even visited this site in over 3 years. Limited production repop of 750 in 2015. LOL... never happened. 750 seems like a pretty big number. I wouldn't call that production "limited" anyway.

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I know that guy that started the thread.  There was an SE Freestyle group on facebook but it got deleted by mistake and all the info on there was lost.  Fred Blood was in the group and he had commented in a thread and that is when corollagts came on here I guess and posted about them reproducing that bike with a limited number run.  The Trickster (II) was a one off.  I just recently found an email....it was a notification from Facebook when Fred Blood made a comment in the Group. 
Here is Fred Blood's comment on the bike from Dec 22 2014.....

Fred Bloods comment on the Trickster.jpg

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Some people think the bike is the precursor to the Trick Master.  Fred Blood states in that comment nothing came from SE Bikes except the headtube and bottom brackets but the rear frame standers are somewhat like the Trick Master.  I never asked Fred back then when he made this frame.... if it was in 1984 then it was the precursor to the Trick Master that came out in 1985.  If Fred Blood's Trickster (II) was made after '84 then it was just a one off he did and it may have possibly been eventually made into a signature model for Fred Blood that never came to fruition.  Maybe if somebody here can ask Mike Devitt, and hopefully Mike can remember, what date he and Blood made the bike...possibly Sean Ewing can ask Mike Devitt...I think Sean can contact him.  Then maybe we can figure out if the Trickster was used as a possible prototype to what became the Trick Master.  A few months after the group on facebook was lost Fred Blood closed his facebook account.  I think his facebook account is back up now if that is truely Mr. Blood.  And I say Trickster II because supposedly the OM mentions in an aritcle that the Trickster was a beefed up PK Ripper frame that the Factory Riders, Mike Buff for example, received with thicker tubing to take the punishment of those riders hittin' those airs when Freestyle was at it's beginnings.  But I don't think anyone is going to cut open their PK Ripper to check.  That is maybe why there have been some factory Trickster decals found and what Fred Blood used on the one off frame he made.  This is just a Theory.  Hope Mike Devitt and Fred Blood can shed some light.    Pic of decals is from corollagts.

The aritcle that most of these pics are from were from the Trick Page they did in that mag...this one was call Blood on the Street - Freestylin' March 1986

 

Trickster decals.jpg

Fred Blood Trick Page Blood on the Street Freestylin' Mar 86.PNG

Fred Blood Trickster 2.jpg

Fred Blood Trickster 3.jpg

Fred Blood Trickster.jpg

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Surprised nobody has commented at least on Fred Blood's comment.  I guess I have to take a whole screen shot in my email for proof. 

Something must have happened in Fred's life for him to not have started the reproduction project that he said he would make about 750 of. 

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Well this thread is useless. Addict, sadly old pro's make claims like this all the time. About one in twenty happen.

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Well this thread is useless. Addict, sadly old pro's make claims like this all the time. About one in twenty happen.

The costs of making a bike/making a replica of something old was probably not worth him taking on such a project Brian.  Maybe I should start a new thread about the history of Fred's Trickster.  Kinda glad he didn't reproduce/replicate this bike.  It keeps its Legend Status.

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I have no doubt your post is authentic, and I doubt anyone else has any doubts... I think it's just a pretty fringe SE item and freestyle attendance has dropped off dramatically in general (no pun intended).  

 

Regarding Mike Devitt, unfortunately he has suffered a stroke or two, and is not doing all that great.  Speech has been effected a fair bit, as I understand it. Hopefully he will stabilize and get a second wind so to speak, but things don't look very promising. 

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He probably tried to get a gauge on interest for reproducing that frame and decided the demand just wasn't there. It's not like that is an iconic bike much less be worthy of "legend" status.

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This bike is pretty iconic.  Ahead of its time and some new flatland bikes have slightly copied the top tube.  And Fred Blood has created some pretty great tricks, a couple when he was with the BMX Action Trick Team in '85 that people still do today. Guess you don't like Freestyle.

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Ok I think I've seen another SE Trickster frame in an issue of Freestylin' July '86.  But this frame is slightly different from Fred Blood's. The twin top tubes on this one get narrow going to the front of the bike where Fred's the tubes stay wide then slowly get narrow like on a Trick Master or '84-'86 Haro Master for examble.  So slightly different at the seat mast forward. They were probably playiing with the design.
Also the magazine says the rider is Dave Voelker.  I don't think Voelker rode for SE Racing.  Magazines have been known to make mistakes, I have a pic of Fred Becker and they label him as Eddie Fiola.  Anyhow, someone mentioned Voelker was near SE and Dave test rode some of their bikes. But this article pic is from an AFA Master's event. 
I am getting help from someone who is texting Dave Voelker to get more info on this.
Someone also said they remember Dave Voelker breaking this frame at that AFA Master's.

I will also provide a close up but here is the article pic....


Dave Voelker weird frame Freestylin July 86.PNG

 

It has that unusual upsweep in the top tube towards the front just like Blood's SE Trickster...
Fred Blood Trickster Decade #2.PNG
Fred Blood Blood on the Street article Freestylin March 86.PNG

Fred Blood Trickster 3.jpg

 

It does look like an SE jersey. Just waiting to find out if that is Dave Voelker and if he can shed some light on the frame...
Dave Voelker Freestylin July 86 close up.PNG

 

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It has been confirmed by Dave Voelker that it is him in the Spring Thaw pic.  Voelker rode for SE Racing at that one event, they gave him the jersey and the bike and paid his entry fee.
He broke the frame at the event.
Thanks to Donnie Platt for getting in touch with Lord Voelker to confirm!

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Contest was at the Velodrome. AFA Masters Rd. 1 March 22nd & 23rd '86

Here is a comment from Lord Voelker himself.......

Dave Voelker's comment on the Trickster bike.PNG

Dave Voelker's comment on the Trickster bike 2.PNG

Dave Voelker on a SE Trickster.PNG

article pic "Spring Thaw" from: Freestylin' - July '86
Dave Voelker Trickster AFA Master Finals March 22-23 Freestylin July 86.PNG

 

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