Admin S.Brothers Posted February 10, 2019 Admin Share Posted February 10, 2019 Thanks to Jon, Brian and Shane for input on this... Jon had a stick tail database that although lost in a computer crash, still yielded some "guide post" dates. This is an evolving process but this graphic represents the fundamentals of the early Quadangle Stick Tail era from 1982 to late 1985. So the attached image is meant to be a "quick guide" for the early stick tail Quadangle era - from 1982 to LATE 1985. One interesting thing about the stick tail era is a switch to a more standardized and detailed serial number format. This helps us see that frame changes did not end nor begin cleanly on Dec 31st and Jan 1st. I'm going to share some serial information provided by Jon, but we should bear in mind that this is based on serials collected and there may well be other examples that would push these dates around a bit. That said, the first iteration of the 4130 Chromoly stick tail was short lived and they went to Reynolds quickly. Jon Hoffman had a stick tail database that was lost in a computer melt down, but stand out details include that the earliest 4130 stick tail Jon had logged was serialed with a Sept 82 date. Conversely the earliest Reynolds that Jon was able to log was March, 1983. So with current evidence we can see that the earliest stick tails were 4130 and went from at least 9/82 to around March of 1983. Then they went to Reynolds and that went until the return to 4130 and a design change in late 1985. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Hays Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Great info. Thanks for putting it together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDSKOOLPK Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Now to use this tool to help educate other tools! Haha! Thanks for putting this all together, wish I still had that list of all of them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharleyGnarlyP290 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 I have one of the blueprints (a copy) of the Stick drawn over the looptail that I got from Scot... can't remember the dates though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 I have a 4130 stick tail but it’s been in a box. I’ll try to pull it down to give you the serial number 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin TrulyOdd Posted February 11, 2019 Admin Share Posted February 11, 2019 great info. here's mine. Let me know if you want the serial. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOY24 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 Excellent info Anyone got the geometry on these frames Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDSKOOLPK Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Hays Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 I see what you did there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reilley1 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 Great info. The knowledge thrown around on this site is still the best. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDSKOOLPK Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin S.Brothers Posted September 29, 2019 Author Admin Share Posted September 29, 2019 bump so I remember to incorporate this into another project Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Hays Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Ahhh yes. I forgot about this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin S.Brothers Posted May 2, 2020 Author Admin Share Posted May 2, 2020 bump 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turdburd Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 (edited) Cool little thread. Remember that BMXA very well. Thought that was a cool looking bike. Edited May 4, 2020 by turdburd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDSKOOLPK Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 So far there are 49 4130 chromoly Quads on the list! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 I forgot about this. Mine is still sitting in a box Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDSKOOLPK Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 C'mon Tony.....step it up! Send me that serial number when you have a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...