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Anyone know the difference in the frames and models? I know RM2 is chromoly? I m guessing there is a RA7, RA8, and RA10? Whats the differences? Im looking to build a Race inc in Aluminum but pro size? I dont know if there is such thing but. Take me to school please! I had a gold FMF that looked like a race inc. Should have kept it. dang it!

Hello, new to the group, looking for a headset for an old Race Inc RA-10 frame, head tube inside diameter is 1.250, anybody know where to find this ? Thanks in advance !

I love a good early days of BMX puzzle. A lot of confusion about early SE forks, and Cycle Pro forks. So, I decided to jump in and see what I could figure out. Lots of reading, lots of PMs with folks, lots of pictures. Heck, I've even bought multiple forks to be able to do side by side comparisons and take pics! But, I think I've pretty much got it sorted out. Maybe I'm wrong, but, I trust folks here won't be shy correcting me. First, we have to talk about Race Inc. Prior to manufacturing SE bikes, RI was making bikes, branded with either Race Inc. or Cycle Pro (and sure, FMF before). And, those bikes both had forks. Which forks? Well, we're only talking about the leading edge fork here, which ended up being the SE fork, so, we're dropping the straight leg out early. So, here's our first point. Race Inc. made forks early. Both RI and Cycle Pro branded. The first problem we see starts here, the only difference between them is the stickers. I own both of these forks, and this picture is an RI and an early CP fork side by side. My forks don't have stickers any more, but, the fork on the left is Cycle Pro, on the right is a Race Inc. fork. RI forks were not drilled, but, this one was drilled by a prior owner (you can tell), and did come off an RI complete, so, although there is a drill hole in it, it is an RI fork. Unfortunate, but, that's life. And research. Notice, they are identical in shoulder shape and dropouts. Starting in 1978, with SE and the JU-6 and BD-III, and later the PK Ripper and DB-IV, SE also branded the same fork with SE/BMX Innovations stickers. So, at this point, we now have one manufacturer, with one fork, yet, 3 different brandings. RI, CP, and BMXI. And now it gets even more confusing. Because it appears with RI taking over SE manufacturing, they quit making Cycle Pro stuff. You don't see the Foiler or Spoiler anymore! And, likely the RI made Cycle Pro fork went away. But, we have Cycle Pro forks appearing as late as 1982. Where did they come from? As early as January, 1979, we start to see Cycle Pro forks that are manufactured by Tange. So, it appears CP went off to Tange to manufacture a fork, in general, with the same overall specs as the RI made fork. Check out a Tange fork on the left vs. the RI made forks. Really close, but, a bit different. The shiny red fork is an NOS Tange made Cycle Pro fork, stacked up next to the other 2. Note the dropout is almost the same, and the shoulder is almost the same. Almost. But, look closely, they are distinct. I have documented 2 Tange made Cycle Pro forks, with 9A stamps, nothing earlier. And, I've seen that fork stamped as late as 2B - Feb. 1982. So, Tange made Cycle Pro forks from 1979 to 1982. I'd expect with the LG fork coming out in 81 (or so), the market for CP forks dried up. Could it get any more confusing? Well, of course. SE still needed a fork until the LG was out. So, how about we slap an SE/BMXI sticker on a Tange made Cycle Pro model? This is the same fork as the shiny red fork above. A Tange made model. The only difference, the sticker. So, to begin the wrap up, here's what we have: Race Inc made one fork model. It could be stickered with Race Inc., Cycle Pro, or, SE stickers. Tange made one fork model. It could be stickered with Cycle Pro or SE stickers. So, 2 manufacturers, 2 forks, 5 distinct "versions": RI RIs RI CPs RI SE's Tange CPs Tange SEs. And, now for the uber-detail oriented person. The Tange made fork had a 79 version, and an 80+ version. The 79 version had a "blob" weld, the 80+ had a nicer weld. And then, the early, early 79's were not drilled, and had no weep holes. The later 79's were drilled and had weep holes. All the Tange made, SE stickered forks I've seen are the 79, blob weld version. Here's a shot of the weld diffs. On the left is a 9A dated version, and the right, a 2B version. The red NOS version above is 0G dated. Any additional info appreciated. I know there were SE stickers on Tuff Forks, but, there isn't any confusion about that. I've also seen Cycle Pro S/L stickers on a set of early forks, don't know what's up with those. And I've seen the RI made forks with welds the full length of the DO, and split into 3 welds. No idea if that means anything. I believe the full weld is early, split weld later, but, additional info is always appreciated. More research on other fun topics to come later!

Well as some of you know I am a bit of a newb and need you vets to school me os style. I am very fascinated by SE the bikes the attitude and style. Was looking at the thread where Scott was posting personal pics etc.... seeing the add for the FMF frame made me think about my FM-Flyer and how similar it is to a PK etc..and of course the Race Inc connection as well. So tell me what the connections were and how these various companies were connected who were the people behind these and why. Also I keep seeing these STR-1 JU-6 etc.......I have no idea what these are so could someone post pics along with explanations as to what these models are? Maybe a good thread to discuss the SE timeline and offshoots. thank you in advance Will

Need help to see what frame I own. Serial # ra38755

Hello everyone I've ben reading for some time but new here and still not Exactly shure if what I have is what I think may be a RACE INC RA-7 Frame ? Not shure if that Brian fella is still lurking around but he shure knows his stuff as I'm sure many of you do as well I'm not if we are aloud to discuss a fair asking price for something of this condition please advise me in your opinion please. Because if I can I'm going to list here or elsewhere if I cant. There seems to be a similar model with uper tear drop or Foiler style going for 2k but from what I remember it's a bit better looking than mine but besides it not same model anyway. If was to be made as close to perfect ther drop out would need a touch of welding to rea machine the slide perfect and Nick's rubbed out and re anodized but is completely serviceable at this moment with out that work if u want to ride it as I intended 25 something years ago I recently finished my REDLINE 720 so I'm happy with it. I should post a pic of it 2 just dont shame me for it not being entirely old school I know you guy's will anyway probably LOL! I really need to find a ACS BOA Rear mount that's An ACS 860 Front mounted back there I'll half to look in for sale anyway thanks for any information guys ! Oh Fyi those are harold forks on the race inc I do not have the fork. Thanks again

So I picked this Frame up from my step-brother, and I have had no luck identifying it. He says the gentleman that he got it from told him that it was a "PK Ripper" but I cant find any pictures to verify. Thank you in advance for any help ideas or suggestions

I haven't been on here much this year and sadly haven't been riding as much as I'd like. I actually started 2018 thinking this might be the year I wouldn't buy or build any bikes. Well, as you can see from this post, that didn't really work out as planned. Here is a quick run down of the bikes. The GT and Cook Bros. were bought complete and I haven't done much with them. The red Race Inc I bought complete with all red parts. The Red Race Inc is OG anno with new stickers. I had the blue Race Inc already with all blue parts, so I decided to switch the parts on both bikes to have a blue on red and red on blue Race Inc. The Powerlite 26 was bought complete from a friend of mine and I switched out the pedals, bars, and seat post (seat post was a JMC, so I put it on my JMC). The red Powerlite I've had for several years, but finally sourced all the gold parts to build a replica of the one I had as a kid.

Here we have a rare facebook find. This bike is in amazing shape, call it what you will a race inc or and SE. I will not be putting that seat clamp back on, the electrical tape stays til I find a nice clamp which won't harm that seatpost.